本來這個blog是記錄開發輸入法的點滴的,後來越來越雜,現在什麼都記錄了。

2007年8月10日 星期五

YLAM TSF 輸入法終於寫完喇

雖然又要返工,放工返來又疲倦,但終於我都學習好微軟輸入法新機制 Text Service Framework, 而且寫完 YLAM TSF
輸入法喇,真高興!
新輸入法的一些特點:

  • 全新輸入法機制 TSF (Text Service Framework)
    編寫,在以下的作業系統測試過:
    • Windows XP 中文版
    • Windows XP 英文版
    • Windows Vista 英文版 (舊的 YLam 不能運作,安裝失敗!)
  • YLam TSF 和舊的 YLam IME 輸入法 介面幾乎一模一樣,方便大家不需要重新學習
  • 修正了從 google 拼音抓詞後一些多餘的 html tag
  • 從 google 拼音抓詞後,如果選用了,自動加入 詞庫中


但新輸入法並非完全沒有問題:
  • 如果在某程式用歪林輸入法打字,然後切換到其他程式, 歪林輸入法的主視窗不能自動關閉。這個問題暫時的解決方法就是要主動按屏幕的關閉按鈕!
  • 以前習慣用 Ctrl-space 來切換英數。但在 TSF 中, Ctrl-space
    有特別用途,是用來切換輸入法,在 新 YLam TSF 中,以後改為 Shift-space 切換英數。

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2007-08-11

99 則留言:

hotant 提到...

歪林你好。
小弟從多年之前使用閣下的輸入法後,終於從個英文人變成了中文人了。
而且還可以和倉頡達人比速度,真的非常感謝閣下的貢獻。
從很多年前到現在為止,小弟還是使用16BIT那個版本,因為之前32BIT版的介面怎麼用都習慣不來,大概我是死腦筋的人吧......
今天無聊爬網,發現閣下又再更新了輸入法版本,而且還是長的和舊的一樣,好高興呢!!
終於可以直接在EXCEL上打中文,實在太方便了。
可是從32BIT開始後有個比較奇怪的問題,小弟覺得如果可以修正的話將會更加完美和方便。
你還記得16BIT版本是如果你輸入資料庫沒有的字的時候,輸入法是會拒絕其後的輸入嗎?
我覺得呢個功能非常貼心的,因為閣下寫的是混合輸入法,因此我主要的輸入都是依靠拼音和英>中翻譯混合一起用的。有時候英文忘記串法,所以忘記了或者串錯了的字就會停住,可是輸入選擇的字並沒有變成空白,用<>或者繼續從其餘25個英文子母死命的試,始終可以找到要輸入的字。
可惜從32BIT起,當打錯字後,選字欄便會變成空白,那麼如果要猜字的話,就必須不斷BACKSPACE然後再試,使用起來比較不方便。
另外當輸入欄變成空白的時候,心情會變得很納悶呢........ 每次遇到這個問題的時候,我就會再轉回16BIT的輸入法,然後可能半年後再嘗試32BIT......不斷循環。
我有看過INI的設定,好像找不到有開啟這個功能,請問是我設定錯誤,還是新的輸入法已經變成必須絕對正確的輸入呢?
長篇大論一番很不好意思,希望沒有耽誤你太多時間吧。
最後還是想再一次感謝你開發的輸入程式。
謝謝!

歪林 提到...

熱螞蟻:
「如果你輸入資料庫沒有的字的時候,輸入法是會拒絕其後的輸入嗎?」

這功能我有需要取消的,因為我已經在我的輸入法加入「整句拼音」輸入,和在開發中的「整句英文」輸入,我不能預知用戶會輸入什麼,所以我必須取消這功能。

「可惜從32BIT起,當打錯字後,選字欄便會變成空白,那麼如果要猜字的話,就必須不斷BACKSPACE然後再試,使用起來比較不方便。」

啊呀,你可以用 Esc 鍵 Reset 輸入法嘛。

both 提到...

歪林你好
謝謝你的回覆

整句英文輸入是好像翻譯軟件一般的功能,還是好像以下的例子這樣?

"我是一個男孩"="I is one koz boy"
一次輸入大量的文字然後一次的輸出?
(上面的中文我真的是這樣打出來的)

那麼可以考慮在以後的版本可以讓不需要新功能的用戶關閉這功能,回復打錯字也可以繼續顯示文字選項,代替全部文字都消失嗎?

啊呀,原來可以用ESE呢,我真笨。
可是ESC有點遠 ^^
因為太習慣用舊的了。

無論如何,也非常感謝你的回覆及你為大家帶來的方便。
謝謝

歪林 提到...

both 先生:

> "我是一個男孩"="I is one koz boy"
> 一次輸入大量的文字然後一次的輸出?
> (上面的中文我真的是這樣打出來的)

哈哈哈。 當然不是。翻譯的核心部分, 是在 google 上執行。我沒有時間去研究英翻譯中的算法喇。我的輸入法只不過將你輸入的東西,送去 google ,然後傳回來。我舉例:你輸入「i-am-very-happy-to-see-someone-comment-on-my-software」(由於 space 用作 輸出字,所以,用 - 代表空格),然後按鈕 Ctrl + E, 之後就得到「我很高興看到有人評論我的軟件」。

>那麼可以考慮在以後的版本可以讓不需要新
>功能的用戶關閉這功能,回復打錯字也可以
>繼續顯示文字選項,代替全部文字都消失嗎?

這個我不會做喇。如果不想用中英翻譯,就不要按 ctrl+E 鍵就算了。

謝謝你用我的輸入法。

匿名 提到...

Hi YLam, will there be a 64-bit Vista version in the future? Although I can installed successfully your downloadable version on my 64-bit English Vista Ultimate, just found out that it's for 32-bit and so the input bar just won't show up.

- ll0001

匿名 提到...

really thx for your great work~
but it cannot be used on English Windows Vista Business >.<
may u try to fix this issue?

歪林 提到...

> but it cannot be used on English > Windows Vista Business >.<


What is your English Windows Vista Business version? Is it 32-bit or 64-bit? Can you provide more imformation? How can I contact you?

歪林 提到...

> will there be a 64-bit Vista
> version in the future?

Dear ll0001, thansk for tellig me this issue. I never thought of using a 64-bit Vista Version (My Laptop is pretty old and does not support 64-bit anyway). I will probably install 64-bit vista later and try my input method there to see what happen.

歪林 提到...

> Your job is excellent,
> but I find that it work on IE
> but not notepad, palm desktop!
> Anything I can do?
> In your blog, it is found TSF
> problem.
> I find it works on IE, Excel, but
> not notepad, palm desktop and I
> am using XP

Dear Tim, could you please try step 1 in this page and tell me the result?

匿名 提到...

我試過TSF啦,你的方法係可以啦。
不過我發覺個xp成日都prompt話個drwtsn32有問題,所以我決定都係用返個ime版。我想個tsf版都係為左vista。
另外,我得覺我最重要係可以好似快碼舊版咁,係可以有得用>來查一d 唔肯定個字,而之後可以睇返係乜定碼,打唔到字就自動清除字碼,都一樣重要。
你所展現新的功能,可以上網查字,翻譯,係好方便,其他輸入法可以一並查字係好方便,所以我希望可以有功能給人選擇就啦。
我想,好似我咁多要求,可能係自己學下程式編輯會更好?
thanks
Tim

匿名 提到...

要在winvista中安裝中文輸入法,必定先要做「管理員權限的設定」(或稱 UAC),這是很早之前的事啦。我在網上看到有人還特別用圖片說明。你打爛winvista是發洩,不必要。

匿名 提到...

Y林先生
您好,我第一次發現您的輸入法,非常高興,覺得挺實用的,我下載了您的phrase

editor,自己加了幾個詞匯開始試用,
不知怎的,總無法在「混合」的旁邊打入字根,請您指導一下我該怎辦才好?
              李雲敬上

匿名 提到...

this is the best input method... but the download link is broken? pleeeeaaaassseeee HELP!!!

sukie 提到...

歪林近來有更新了,要不是換電腦要重新安裝,我都不知道呢!這個中文輸入法越來越好用!不過最新日文漢字是什麼意思呢? 我把我弄不好,歪林可以解釋一下嘛?

Timy 提到...

歪林:
I am a newbie to your input method, so... I would like to know:

Can the WindowXP version also be downloaded from the following link?
http://input.foruto.com/IME/Linux/BINARIES/MyIME_2.0.tar.bz2

After download, how to install?

Thanks!

Timy 提到...

Has found where to download winXP version!

Rgds,

Tony 提到...

歪林好,
我都用了 ylam 好幾年啦,依然在用的是前身可以獨立運行的 Windows 版本
(就是那個可以免安裝運行.exe啟動輸入法的版本,算是老用戶嗎?)
但近日測試使用 Windows 7,問題就來了,
舊的當然不能用啦,這個也是意料中事,
所以就安裝 Vista 的那個版本,依照網頁上的指示安裝好,
沒錯 IE8 的地址列及搜尋列都能成功啟動 ylam
再測試一下,記事本也可以 (這個貼就是小弟用記事本打的)
但,Firefox 就不能用了,IE8 進網頁後的輸入欄也不能
(例如到 Google.com上搜尋,輸入想搜尋 keyword 的那個位置就不能啟動 ylam 了,
blogspot 這個 留下您的意見 的欄位也不能。)
想問一下歪林先生有意研究一下問題的所在嗎?
我在使用的 Windows 7 版本是 Build 7600 .16385

Tony 提到...

耶,很奇怪,Firefox 現在又能用了,看來也許是我自己設定的問題,導致不能啟動,真的不好意思。 (IE8 的輸入欄依然不能,也許是 IE8 的問題。)

Tony 提到...

Hi, Is me Tony again.. I'm still having trouble using YLam on Windows 7... after some examination.
Now I have to reinstall ylam TSF every time I boot my system or after I reboot my system.. otherwise it won't work,Don't know why this is happending to my system.. Maybe I have Chinese MUI installed?
Any Windows 7 user here can help me solve this problem as well?

歪林 提到...

Sorry Tony that I still have not used Windows 7 yet..... I cannot help......

But one of my friend in facebook tells me that:

"歪林哥,我將部腦upgrade去Windows 7(雖然只是RC),關左UAC就可以繼續用歪林輸入法!

話說今次個UAC有幾個level,我只是較到最低"

Would this help?。

Tony 提到...

現在在第二台電腦使用 X64 的 Win 7
暫時使用舊的那個 (之前提及 .exe 那個) 改變相容性為 Windows XP SP2 可以正常啟動。
TSF 那個也裝了,安裝之前改了 UAC,看似也能正常的跑,我想之前那台可能不知弄錯了什麼,所以打算重裝,到時再看看有沒有問題。
感謝你的回覆!

Fa 提到...

hello, i have been using ylam for many years and recently i chang it into window 7, and i tried to follow the instruction of vista and it doesn't work. Is there a way that Ylam can be use in window 7?

Tony 提到...

歪林輸入法 有計劃支持 手機/平板電腦的 android 系統嗎? 雖然 android 系統都有手寫,但係用得歪林咁多年,已經好多時唔記得 D 中文字點寫,哈哈!所以好希望歪林會有時間同計劃移植歪林輸入法到 android 系統 上 (iOS 也可以喔! :P)

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